{"id":100126,"date":"2022-10-18T01:16:04","date_gmt":"2022-10-18T01:16:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/harchi90.com\/marvel-snap-devs-first-idea-was-so-good-they-refused-to-believe-it\/"},"modified":"2022-10-18T01:16:04","modified_gmt":"2022-10-18T01:16:04","slug":"marvel-snap-devs-first-idea-was-so-good-they-refused-to-believe-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/harchi90.com\/marvel-snap-devs-first-idea-was-so-good-they-refused-to-believe-it\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;Marvel Snap&#8217; devs&#8217; first idea was so good they refused to believe it"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div class=\"wpds-c-grBDNq hide-for-print mb-sm undefined\">\n<div class=\"PJLV PJLV-iAjpuP-css flex items-center\" config=\"[object Object]\" data-qa=\"article-actions\">\n<div class=\"wpds-c-fLphcs\">\n<div class=\"wpds-c-jmLDag wpds-c-jmLDag-bywHgD-variant-primary wpds-c-jmLDag-biynoz-density-compact wpds-c-jmLDag-hZSyid-isOutline-true wpds-c-jmLDag-ejCoEP-icon-left wpds-c-jmLDag-futxca-cv wpds-c-jmLDag-iknmtxO-css\"><button aria-label=\"Comment\" class=\"PJLV PJLV-iPnDcc-css\"><svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewbox=\"0 0 16 16\" fill=\"currentColor\" aria-hidden=\"true\" focusable=\"false\" role=\"img\" class=\"wpds-c-kKAfCG wpds-c-efqEZa focus-highlight flex items-center justify-center brad-lg pointer transition-400 ease-in-out transition-colors\" aria-label=\"Comment on this story\"><title>Comment on this story<\/title><path d=\"M14 14V2H2v9.47h8.18L12.43 13ZM3 10.52V3h10v9.23l-2.5-1.66Z\"\/><\/svg><\/button><\/p>\n<p>Comment<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"teaser-content grid-center\">\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">Though better known for its comics and cinematic universe, Marvel Entertainment has published video games since the 1980s.  From \u201cThe Amazing Spider-Man\u201d on the original Game Boy to \u201cMarvel&#8217;s Avengers\u201d on the PlayStation 5, dozens of titles over the decades have allowed players to live vicariously through their favorite superheroes and villains.  Still, Marvel&#8217;s place in the video game industry pales in comparison to its role in Hollywood.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">Bill Rosemann, vice president and creative director of Marvel Games, wants that to change.  He believes \u201cMarvel Snap,\u201d an upcoming free-to-play mobile and PC title that releases Oct.  18, is a step in the right direction.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">\u201cWe don&#8217;t just want to make a great Marvel game.  We don&#8217;t just want to make a great Marvel card game.  We want to make a great game,\u201d Rosemann said in a recent video interview with The Washington Post. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">And who is Marvel Games putting in charge of developing said title?  The entertainment titan partnered with Ben Brode, former game director for Blizzard Entertainment&#8217;s \u201cHearthstone,\u201d one of the most successful online collectible card games in history.  Brode, and his new team at Second Dinner \u2014 many of whom are ex-Blizzard talent \u2014 wanted to create a game that would resonate with fans of the superhero genre and video games alike.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">\u201cWe saw the team that Ben was assembling and we had no doubts from the beginning [Second Dinner] were going to make the best card battler in the world,\u201d Rosemann said.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p><span class=\"font--article-body font-copy hide-for-print ma-0 pb-md db italic interstitial\">Ex-&#8216;World of Warcraft&#8217; developers unveil game in deal with Twitch stars<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">The game is relatively simple to pick up and understand.  Players create a deck of 12 cards featuring heroes and villains from the Marvel universe.  They go back and forth playing cards in different locations from the Marvel universe, with an energy allotment determining how many they can play each turn.  Whoever has the highest power at two of the three locations after the final turn wins.  Games last only a few minutes and are easy to fit into spare moments on the go.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">The barrier to entry is low, by design.  However, the intricacies of the title lie in the progression system and ranked ladder experience.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">In \u201cMarvel Snap&#8217;s\u201d sole game mode (for now), players rank up based on the number of cubes to their name.  Cubes are won and lost in matches and the numbers vary on how long each bout goes and the utilization of the \u201cSnap\u201d mechanic.  Games typically last a maximum of six turns.  At any point, a player can Snap to put more cubes at stake.  If one person Snaps, it suggests to the opponent that they&#8217;re confident they&#8217;re going to win, thus making the risk of cubes a calculated gamble.  The opponent can play the game out, Snap back to raise the stakes even further or escape and leave the match early, losing a lesser amount of cubes than they would have if they played the game out and lost.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">The game&#8217;s unique Marvel-themed cosmetics and art were designed to be compelling in their own right, but it&#8217;s the mind games that Rosemann believes will keep players coming back for more.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">\u201cThere&#8217;s the bluffing portion of it that is new and innovative and really fun and makes it very strategic,\u201d Rosemann said.  \u201cI think you will find it&#8217;s a game that you can jump into very quickly, play very quickly, but then discover, &#8216;Oh, there&#8217;s real [strategic depth] here.&#8217;  And then that&#8217;s infused from the ground up with Marvel.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">Brode, whose history includes working on the World of Warcraft Trading Card Game (now out of print) before acting as an early member on \u201cHearthstone&#8217;s\u201d original design team, knows a thing or two about what makes a card game fun.  In 2018, four years after launch, Blizzard announced that its collectible card game reached over 100 million downloads.  In the eight years since its release, \u201cHearthstone\u201d has continued to release content and entertain millions.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p><span class=\"font--article-body font-copy hide-for-print ma-0 pb-md db italic interstitial\">&#8216;Hearthstone&#8217; updates used to take ages.  Times have changed.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">In 2018, Brode, whose colorful personality and signature cackling laugh became synonymous with the multibillion dollar company, announced that he was leaving Blizzard Entertainment to start a game company with a few of his friends and former colleagues.  The decision was a difficult one, with plenty of risk, but Brode wanted to return to his roots.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">\u201cI was getting very involved in leadership and management for the last couple years of my job,\u201d Brode told The Washington Post.  \u201cI really enjoyed doing it, but I was itching to get back into actually programming and designing and getting my hands dirty directly.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">Alongside co-founder Hamilton Chu, the pair agreed on the name Second Dinner for their company as an homage to the late nights they&#8217;d spent together brainstorming ideas.  With a name decided, it was time to get the team together and begin working on creating \u2026 something.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">\u201cWe didn&#8217;t have any game ideas when we left, but we knew that we wanted to do a blend of really earth-shattering gameplay and a really high business opportunity.  And I think that there&#8217;s kind of a nexus,\u201d Brode said.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">Despite his roots in game design starting on desktop computers, Brode found another medium more immediately appealing.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">\u201cMobile is a great place to have a successful game.  At the core of it, what I wanted to do was make a game I really wanted to play,\u201d said Brode.  \u201cI had just become a father.  My son was born basically the day Hearthstone was released and I found that it was much easier for me to play mobile games.  So I wanted to build something that I would be able to play more often.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p><span class=\"font--article-body font-copy hide-for-print ma-0 pb-md db italic interstitial\">10 great games to play on iPhone<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">With no intellectual property to base their game around, the team at Second Dinner began creating prototype mobile games until a familiar face provided them with an opportunity.  Jay Ong, executive vice president and head of Marvel Games, worked at Blizzard with Brode in the early 2000s before departing for his current company in 2014. When he caught wind that the team at Second Dinner was looking for a partner for a mobile game, a meeting was set.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">\u201cWe had a meal, we sat down, and the confidence that they could bring Marvel to life, and would make [the game] as authentically and excitingly Marvel as possible, was evident,\u201d said Rosemann, who attended the meeting.  \u201cWe just geeked out about our collective Marvel history.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">There was a shared interest in the Marvel Universe trading cards from the &#8217;90s, and the attendees gushed over the comics and the role the characters had played in their lives.  It was a perfect fit, Rosemann said.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">\u201c[Second Dinner is] like Wolverine: They&#8217;re the best at what they do,\u201d Rosemann said with a laugh.  \u201cExcept what they do is very nice.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">The Second Dinner team had experience channeling the vast World of Warcraft universe into a card game.  But there were some stark differences between that property, and Marvel&#8217;s universe.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">\u201cI came from working on the Warcraft IP where there&#8217;s tons of creatures and enemies to slaughter by the hundreds, and that&#8217;s just not Marvel,\u201d Brode said.  \u201cMarvel is much more focused on heroes fighting a single villain.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">It wasn&#8217;t long before the Second Dinner team struck creative gold.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">\u201cWe came up with the idea for &#8216;Marvel Snap&#8217; pretty quickly.  In fact, it was so fun so fast, we actually put it on pause and said, &#8216;Look, we&#8217;ve got to explore some other stuff.  We can&#8217;t have this good of an idea this quickly,&#8217; \u201d Brode said, reminiscing.  \u201cLike the first idea&#8217;s never the best.  But after a bunch of iterations, all we could think about was playing this game.  So we ended up going back to it and fleshing it out.  It&#8217;s been fun ever since.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p><span class=\"font--article-body font-copy hide-for-print ma-0 pb-md db italic interstitial\">From Star Wars to Marvel, licensed video games are becoming more ambitious.  Here&#8217;s why.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">And while player enjoyment is the goal for any game to be successful long term, many find deeper meaning in titles they dive into.  Given the difficulties of life in recent years, an escape from reality is important as well, according to Rosemann.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">Before ending the conversation with The Washington Post, Rosemann&#8217;s demeanor suddenly shifted, as did his tone.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\">\u201cIt&#8217;s a challenging world we&#8217;re living in for many, many reasons and what is helping all of us collectively over the past few years is this opportunity,\u201d said Rosemann.  \u201cWe get to make a game that we know is going to entertain people and, man, people need that.  \u2026 The power of games, now that we&#8217;re all isolated, for many reasons, is to be able to play a game that connects you to people around the world and makes you feel good and gives you some hope.  We know that&#8217;s so important.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-body\" data-qa=\"article-body\">\n<p data-qa=\"drop-cap-letter\" data-el=\"text\" class=\"wpds-c-cYdRxM wpds-c-cYdRxM-iPJLV-css font-copy\"><i>Tim Rizzo is a freelance journalist with over a decade&#8217;s worth of experience in the news industry.  He can be found at <\/i><a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TimRizzo\" target=\"_blank\"><i>@TimRizzo<\/i><\/a><i>  on Twitter.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<section class=\"b bt bc-offblack dn-ns hide-for-print\" data-testid=\"mostRead\" subscriptions-section=\"content\"\/><\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Comment on this story Comment Though better known for its comics and cinematic universe, Marvel Entertainment has published video games since the 1980s. From \u201cThe Amazing Spider-Man\u201d on the original Game Boy to \u201cMarvel&#8217;s Avengers\u201d on the PlayStation 5, dozens of titles over the decades have allowed players to live vicariously through their favorite superheroes &hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more\"> <a class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/harchi90.com\/marvel-snap-devs-first-idea-was-so-good-they-refused-to-believe-it\/\"> <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">&#8216;Marvel Snap&#8217; devs&#8217; first idea was so good they refused to believe it<\/span> Read More &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","spay_email":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":106909,"url":"https:\/\/harchi90.com\/what-is-marvel-snap-and-how-do-you-play-it\/","url_meta":{"origin":100126,"position":0},"title":"What is Marvel Snap and how do you play it?","date":"October 24, 2022","format":false,"excerpt":"There's a new card battler out there that has been climbing up the charts for both Steam and mobile app stores: Second Dinner Studio's Marvel Snap. 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