{"id":105035,"date":"2022-10-22T20:22:12","date_gmt":"2022-10-22T20:22:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/harchi90.com\/horner-slams-mclarens-reference-to-cheating-in-fia-letter\/"},"modified":"2022-10-22T20:22:12","modified_gmt":"2022-10-22T20:22:12","slug":"horner-slams-mclarens-reference-to-cheating-in-fia-letter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/harchi90.com\/horner-slams-mclarens-reference-to-cheating-in-fia-letter\/","title":{"rendered":"Horner slams McLaren&#8217;s reference to &#8216;cheating&#8217; in FIA letter"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"therace-post-content\">\n<p>Red Bull Formula 1 boss Christian Horner calls it \u201cabsolutely shocking\u201d to have been linked to cheating in a letter from McLaren to the FIA \u200b\u200bregarding Red Bull&#8217;s ongoing budget cap dispute.<\/p>\n<p>After the FIA&#8217;s analysis of teams&#8217; 2021 budget cap submissions determined Red Bull had overspent by an unspecified amount, McLaren Racing CEO Zak Brown wrote to FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem and F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali.<\/p>\n<p>He did not mention Red Bull by name but did reference that \u201cone team was guilty of a minor overspend breach plus a procedural breach\u201d and stated his belief this would \u201cconstitute cheating by offering a significant advantage across technical, sporting and financial regulations\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/playlist.megaphone.fm?e=TAMC3377422200\" width=\"100%\" height=\"200\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Horner, sat beside Brown in Saturday&#8217;s FIA press conference at the United States Grand Prix, did not look at him as he addressed the McLaren letter in a stinging answer that slammed \u201cfictitious\u201d and claimed the persecution of Red Bull has been such that children of team employees have been bullied because of it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cZak&#8217;s letter, which wasn&#8217;t copied to us \u2013 we&#8217;ve had sight of that letter and it&#8217;s tremendously disappointing for a fellow competitor to be accusing you of cheating,\u201d Horner said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTo accuse you of fraudulent activity is shocking.  It&#8217;s absolutely shocking that another competitor, without the facts or any knowledge of the details, can be making that kind of accusation.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe&#8217;ve been on trial because of public accusations since Singapore.  The rhetoric of &#8216;cheats&#8217;, that we&#8217;ve had this enormous benefit.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe numbers that have been put out in the media are miles out of reality.  The damage that does to the brand, to our partners, to our drivers, to our workforce.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn an age where mental health is prevalent, we&#8217;re seeing significant issues within our workforce, we&#8217;re getting kids that are being bullied in playgrounds who are employees&#8217; children.  That is not right.  Through fictitious from other teams.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou cannot go around making that kind of allegation without any fact or substance.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo, we absolutely are appalled at the behavior of some of our competitors.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Red Bull has so far contested the FIA&#8217;s interpretation of its budget cap submission.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/playlist.megaphone.fm?e=TAMC3597216672\" width=\"100%\" height=\"200\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>There is a dispute over what should and should not be included in the cost cap figures and Red Bull maintains its submission, which was below the limit, followed the financial regulations correctly.<\/p>\n<p>The FIA \u200b\u200bhas proposed an Accepted Breach Agreement to Red Bull and there have been discussions between Horner and Ben Sulayem in Austin this weekend.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"DNzFdRfJjw\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"ast-oembed-container\" style=\"height: 100%;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"How Red Bull can fight F1 cost cap verdict after being found guilty\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Bd9H-h5AZvA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n<p>But to enter into that ABA, Red Bull needs to accept it committed a breach and whatever penalty the FIA \u200b\u200bhas suggested.<\/p>\n<p>The Race understands a fine, which would be exempt from a future budget cap submission, and a reduction in aerodynamic testing time was part of the original FIA proposal.<\/p>\n<p>Brown&#8217;s letter called for a reduction in any offending team&#8217;s future cost cap limits and a 20% reduction in its CFD and windtunnel testing allowances.<\/p>\n<p>However, cost cap reductions are not among the penalties allowed in an ABA \u2013 it would need Red Bull to refuse to enter the ABA and the case to go to the Cost Cap Adjudication Panel for that kind of punishment to be possible.<\/p>\n<p>In response to Horner&#8217;s remarks and in defense of his letter, Brown said on Saturday: \u201cMy letter set out that if someone, a team, spends more than the cap, they&#8217;re going to get an advantage.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe cap is a rule, no different to the technical rules in the sport.  We&#8217;re not taking a view on whether they did or didn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c[The idea was] &#8216;If someone has, here are the things that should be addressed&#8217;, no different than if a ride height is incorrect or a flexi-wing or whatever the case may be.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI didn&#8217;t mention any teams, it was a general response.  Now that we&#8217;re into the cost cap era, if someone breaches that, here&#8217;s what we think some of the ramifications are.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI have no idea what the number is, I know none of the detail.  If we had more money to spend, that would put us in a better light and performance \u2013 more people, more upgrades, whatever the case may be.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe feel it&#8217;s a performance benefit if someone has spent more than the allocated cost cap.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat is up to the FIA \u200b\u200bto determine whether they have or haven&#8217;t.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-141203\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/storage.googleapis.com\/the-race-com.appspot.com\/1\/2022\/10\/XPB_1178723_HiRes.jpg?resize=5092%2C3395&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Motor Racing Formula One World Championship United States Grand Prix Qualifying Day Austin, USA\" width=\"5092\" height=\"3395\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/storage.googleapis.com\/the-race-com.appspot.com\/1\/2022\/10\/XPB_1178723_HiRes.jpg?resize=5092%2C3395&#038;ssl=1 5092w, https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/the-race-com.appspot.com\/1\/2022\/10\/XPB_1178723_HiRes-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/the-race-com.appspot.com\/1\/2022\/10\/XPB_1178723_HiRes-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/the-race-com.appspot.com\/1\/2022\/10\/XPB_1178723_HiRes-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/the-race-com.appspot.com\/1\/2022\/10\/XPB_1178723_HiRes-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/the-race-com.appspot.com\/1\/2022\/10\/XPB_1178723_HiRes-2048x1365.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 5092px) 100vw, 5092px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Horner said Brown had a \u201cconvenient memory\u201d of the letter the McLaren boss wrote.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe 5% window is part of the regulations that needs to be looked at,\u201d Horner said in reference to the &#8216;minor&#8217; breach Red Bull has committed.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe ranging suite of penalties is totally subjective and I think this is what is contributing to a concerted campaign for there to be a draconian penalty on Red Bull for what at the end of the day is in contention with the FIA \u200b\u200bfor a couple of hundred thousand dollars.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI&#8217;ll explain later why we have a different opinion within that submission of what our position was versus another.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat has been tremendously disappointing throughout this whole process is the leakage that happened.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe&#8217;re suddenly on trial and subjected to what is effectively abuse.  Zak has a very convenient memory of the letter he wrote, accusing us of cheating and being fraudulent.  It&#8217;s just not right.  And this has to stop.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><script>\n\t!function(f,b,e,v,n,t,s)\n\t{if(f.fbq)return;n=f.fbq=function(){n.callMethod?\n\tn.callMethod.apply(n,arguments):n.queue.push(arguments)};\n\tif(!f._fbq)f._fbq=n;n.push=n;n.loaded=!0;n.version='2.0';\n\tn.queue=[];t=b.createElement(e);t.async=!0;\n\tt.src=v;s=b.getElementsByTagName(e)[0];\n\ts.parentNode.insertBefore(t,s)}(window, document,'script',\n\t'https:\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/fbevents.js');\n\tfbq('init', '639993803505804');\n\tfbq('consent', 'revoke'); \/\/ fbq('consent', 'grant');\n\tfbq('track', 'PageView');\n\t<\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Red Bull Formula 1 boss Christian Horner calls it \u201cabsolutely shocking\u201d to have been linked to cheating in a letter from McLaren to the FIA \u200b\u200bregarding Red Bull&#8217;s ongoing budget cap dispute. After the FIA&#8217;s analysis of teams&#8217; 2021 budget cap submissions determined Red Bull had overspent by an unspecified amount, McLaren Racing CEO Zak &hellip;<\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more\"> <a class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/harchi90.com\/horner-slams-mclarens-reference-to-cheating-in-fia-letter\/\"> <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Horner slams McLaren&#8217;s reference to &#8216;cheating&#8217; in FIA letter<\/span> Read More &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","spay_email":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":110642,"url":"https:\/\/harchi90.com\/red-bull-and-fia-cost-cap-agreement-set-to-be-announced\/","url_meta":{"origin":105035,"position":0},"title":"Red Bull and FIA cost cap agreement set to be announced","date":"October 28, 2022","format":false,"excerpt":"An agreement between Red Bull and the FIA \u200b\u200bover the team's budget cap breach is set to be announced on Friday ahead of the Mexican Grand Prix. 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