{"id":150620,"date":"2022-12-07T09:30:08","date_gmt":"2022-12-07T09:30:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/harchi90.com\/kanye-west-subreddit-finally-turns-on-kanye-west\/"},"modified":"2022-12-07T09:30:08","modified_gmt":"2022-12-07T09:30:08","slug":"kanye-west-subreddit-finally-turns-on-kanye-west","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/harchi90.com\/kanye-west-subreddit-finally-turns-on-kanye-west\/","title":{"rendered":"Kanye West subreddit finally turns on Kanye West."},"content":{"rendered":"<div itemprop=\"mainEntityOfPage\">\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"105\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/clbciwrtg005r3xkn9f30chcu@published\">For decades, Kanye West was one of the most magnetic celebrities on earth.  This was evident not only in the bestselling albums, packed concerts, and mega-hyped sneaker drops, but in the thriving online communities that organized around him.  Ye had earned a devoted subreddit with hundreds of thousands of followers, a handful of highly influential fan forums, and a quick-to-mobilized army of snake-emoji-ready soldiers ready to man the Instagram ramparts.  Even as West became more and more controversial a public figure, and his new albums became less and less vital, these fans found comraderie among one another and occasionally still organized to defend their fave.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"61\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/clbcj6ofh000r3b6ttmrj29wj@published\">At least until now.  Having witnessing Ye&#8217;s yearslong escalation from \u201cdragon energy\u201d mantras to open Hitler worship, many of these former stans are finally ready to leave their onetime idol behind\u2014though not \u201cthe friends we made along the way,\u201d as r\/Kanye moderator Clement Leveau put it to me.  \u201cKanye brought all of us together, but we don&#8217;t identify with him anymore.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"177\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/clbcj6ogh000s3b6td4sdluea@published\">Since 2016, as Ye&#8217;s reactionary turn advanced from public support for Donald Trump to sporting bigoted symbols like the \u201cWhite Lives Matter\u201d slogan and the swastiska, plenty of attention has turned to the fan communities: subreddits like r\/Kanye, forums like KanyeToThe, Instagram and Twitter accounts like @TeamKanyeDaily.  For all of them, grappling with Ye&#8217;s reactionary drift has been a yearslong struggle;  as Aaron Mak reported for Slate four years ago, KanyeToThe&#8217;s reckoning with its hero&#8217;s MAGA turn dates back to 2018, when he told TMZ that slavery was a \u201cchoice.\u201d  But West&#8217;s dining with white supremacist Nick Fuentes and praise for Hitler during an <em>infowars <\/em>appearance were the \u201cabsolute breaking point,\u201d Leveau stated, and now these spaces are condemning Ye much more strongly.  On Oct.  28, a KanyeToThe admin pinned an official \u201cStatement on Antisemitism,\u201d which declared that \u201cAntisemitic content is not tolerated under any circumstances in our forums.\u201d  TeamKanyeDaily hasn&#8217;t posted an update in weeks.  And r\/Kanye has transformed into a Holocaust memorial space, a dumping ground for cathartic anti-Ye rants, and\u2014gasp!\u2014a shrine to Taylor Swift.<\/p>\n<figure data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/image\/instances\/clbcjvtg5000e3b6t13c5vf1k@published\" class=\"image image--center\" data-editable=\"imageInfo\">\n<div class=\"lazyload-container\" style=\"padding-bottom: 66.69329073482429%;\">\n        <br \/>\n        <noscript><br \/>\n          <img class=\"lazyloaded\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/compote.slate.com\/images\/b57ee5a5-430d-4aea-b75b-c7aed76eeaca.png?resize=1252%2C835&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"An r\/Kanye post with a photo of a hand holding a DVD set of the documentary Shoah\" width=\"1252\" height=\"835\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><br \/>\n        <\/noscript>\n      <\/div><figcaption class=\"image__meta\">\n<span class=\"image__credit\">Screenshot from Reddit<\/span><br \/>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"56\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/clbcj6ohs000t3b6twy1enrub@published\">Leveau, a 22-year-old New Yorker who became a Kanye West fan in high school <em>The Life of Pablo<\/em>&#8216;s messy rollout, told me the subreddit he&#8217;s been helping run for a half-decade had long been in the throes of an identity crisis.  \u201cWithin the server, the regulars had not enjoyed Kanye for years,\u201d he told me.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"113\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/clbcj6ojd000u3b6t2qc6yah0@published\">Obviously, it&#8217;s never <em>note<\/em> been fraught to be a fan and defender of West, who interrupted Taylor Swift&#8217;s VMAs speech and subsequently was called a \u201cjackass\u201d by the president of the United States fully 13 years ago.  Even the MAGA hats of the last five years weren&#8217;t a turning point.  \u201cYe has kinda been a controversial figure for years, so it was something at least I was accustomed to, and I was more invested in what he had to offer musically,\u201d Christian, a 22-year-old Baltimore-based student and longtime r\/Kanye mod, told me.  \u201cThere are progressive and conservative people within the fanbase and the conservative fans deserved a degree of respect, despite our disagreements.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"61\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/clbcj6oke000v3b6twkpcwson@published\">But the risible Kanye comments kept piling up\u2014the TMZ interview, his bizarre religious nationalism, the \u201cdeath con 3\u201d tweet.  From there, Leveau began to notice more insidious elements within his beloved subreddit.  \u201cOver the past few months, we&#8217;ve seen a huge increase in hateful comments, and it&#8217;s exactly aligned with the type of audience that Kanye is drawing now,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<aside data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/in-article-recirc\/instances\/clbciwrtg005s3xknyhivt96y@published\" class=\"in-article-recirc\" data-via=\"article-inline_recirc-section-technology\">\n<ol class=\"in-article-recirc__list\">\n<li class=\"in-article-recirc__item\">\n<p>            Bird Feeders Might Not Be Very Good for Birds<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"in-article-recirc__item\">\n<p>            Why Sam Bankman-Fried Isn&#8217;t in Jail Yet<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"in-article-recirc__item\">\n<p>            Immunity Debt Is Real, and It&#8217;s Overwhelming Children&#8217;s Hospitals<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"in-article-recirc__item\">\n<p>            The New Wordle Editor Is Ruining Wordle<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/aside>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"64\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/clbcj6ole000w3b6t191kmvbo@published\">It&#8217;s required a more preemptive approach to moderation in a forum that explicitly doesn&#8217;t allow hate speech, Christian said: \u201cThere have been more people joining and getting instantly banned than ever before.\u201d  That type of work, especially when done entirely voluntarily, takes its toll.  In mid-November, one \u201chonorary moderator\u201d told Insider&#8217;s Kieran Press-Reynolds that the subreddit had become a \u201cbloodbath\u201d and he was quitting.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"204\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/clbcj6omf000x3b6t8ermwb8m@published\">Surges of hate speech weren&#8217;t the only thing r\/Kanye mods had to worry about, however\u2014there were also the consequences of being associated with a hateful celebrity, no matter how different the fans themselves were.  Leveau told me that the subreddit&#8217;s official Discord server lost its verified partnership with Discord, likely thanks to Ye&#8217;s antisemitism and the stain it had cast on his following.  The mods made an attempt to contact Discord and appeal the decision, to little avail.  \u201cWe were worried this community would get blipped out of existence because of what Kanye was saying,\u201d Leveau told me.  So he took a \u201chard-line\u201d stance on comments in both the subreddit and the server, in order to preserve something of importance to him and so many others: \u201cWe have a very vibrant community, and it&#8217;s been hard to find a new net to cast for all of us.\u201d  He stresses that the members of r\/Kanye are a truly eclectic bunch\u2014chess players, visual artists, programmers, and teenage musicians, all of whom have befriended one another and even come to collaborate on projects.  That&#8217;s not something anybody wishes to lose, considering that successful musical groups like Brockhampton can trace their formation directly back to websites like KanyeToThe.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"119\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/clbcj6oni000y3b6tjsgpn2pk@published\">All of this is not to say that Ye&#8217;s most online fans have universally abandoned him.  There are still plenty of anonymous fan accounts with thousands of followers\u2014like @kanyedefenseforce and @ye4us and <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kanyestreams1\">@kanyestreams1<\/a>\u2014that seem likely to continue defending West until the music stops, and have been rewarded with his support.  Plenty of newer fans attracted to Ye <em>because<\/em> of his far-right turn have done their part to try to infiltrate the more ambivalent spaces and double down on Ye&#8217;s hateful speech.  But these parties may be outliers: One r\/Kanye user who described themselves as \u201cnot even close to being a liberal\u201d wrote a post expressing disappointment that there was persistent support for a man who said he \u201clikes Hitler.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/image\/instances\/clbcjuep400073b6tfdesfo1b@published\" class=\"image image--center\" data-editable=\"imageInfo\">\n<div class=\"lazyload-container\" style=\"padding-bottom: 66.71949286846277%;\">\n        <img alt=\"An r\/Kanye post titled &quot;The backlash against the backlash.&quot;\" class=\"lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/compote.slate.com\/images\/d5657600-0b8d-4663-b6e5-27046968b161.png?crop=1262%2C842%2Cx0%2Cy63\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/compote.slate.com\/images\/d5657600-0b8d-4663-b6e5-27046968b161.png?crop=1262%2C842%2Cx0%2Cy63&amp;width=320 320w,&#10;https:\/\/compote.slate.com\/images\/d5657600-0b8d-4663-b6e5-27046968b161.png?crop=1262%2C842%2Cx0%2Cy63&amp;width=480 480w,&#10;https:\/\/compote.slate.com\/images\/d5657600-0b8d-4663-b6e5-27046968b161.png?crop=1262%2C842%2Cx0%2Cy63&amp;width=600 600w,&#10;https:\/\/compote.slate.com\/images\/d5657600-0b8d-4663-b6e5-27046968b161.png?crop=1262%2C842%2Cx0%2Cy63&amp;width=840 840w,&#10;https:\/\/compote.slate.com\/images\/d5657600-0b8d-4663-b6e5-27046968b161.png?crop=1262%2C842%2Cx0%2Cy63&amp;width=960 960w,&#10;https:\/\/compote.slate.com\/images\/d5657600-0b8d-4663-b6e5-27046968b161.png?crop=1262%2C842%2Cx0%2Cy63&amp;width=1280 1280w,&#10;https:\/\/compote.slate.com\/images\/d5657600-0b8d-4663-b6e5-27046968b161.png?crop=1262%2C842%2Cx0%2Cy63&amp;width=1440 1440w,&#10;https:\/\/compote.slate.com\/images\/d5657600-0b8d-4663-b6e5-27046968b161.png?crop=1262%2C842%2Cx0%2Cy63&amp;width=1600 1600w,&#10;https:\/\/compote.slate.com\/images\/d5657600-0b8d-4663-b6e5-27046968b161.png?crop=1262%2C842%2Cx0%2Cy63&amp;width=1920 1920w,&#10;https:\/\/compote.slate.com\/images\/d5657600-0b8d-4663-b6e5-27046968b161.png?crop=1262%2C842%2Cx0%2Cy63&amp;width=2200 2200w\" data-sizes=\"(min-width: 1440px)780px,&#10;(min-width: 1024px)709px,&#10;(min-width: 768px)620px,&#10;calc(100vw - 30px)\" width=\"1262\" height=\"842\"\/><br \/>\n        <noscript><br \/>\n          <img class=\"lazyloaded\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/compote.slate.com\/images\/d5657600-0b8d-4663-b6e5-27046968b161.png?resize=1262%2C842&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"An r\/Kanye post titled &quot;The backlash against the backlash.&quot;\" width=\"1262\" height=\"842\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><br \/>\n        <\/noscript>\n      <\/div><figcaption class=\"image__meta\">\n<span class=\"image__credit\">Screenshot from Reddit<\/span><br \/>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"49\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/clbcj6ooj000z3b6tdz2b6vpj@published\">The end result is that actual defenders of Kanye West are now being shown the door by the subreddit he inspired.  As Christian said of fans who are supportive of Ye&#8217;s pro-Nazi turn: \u201cThey&#8217;re entitled to their own opinions, but are welcome to do it anywhere but near <span class=\"slate-paragraph--tombstone\">base.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"future-tense-kicker\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/future-tense-kicker\/instances\/clbciwrtg005t3xknzpofnixt@published\">\n<p>Future Tense is a partnership of Slate, New America, and Arizona State University that examines emerging technologies, public policy, and society.\n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\">\n!function(f,b,e,v,n,t,s){\nif(f.fbq)return;n=f.fbq=function(){n.callMethod?\nn.callMethod.apply(n,arguments):n.queue.push(arguments)};if(!f._fbq)f._fbq=n;\nn.push=n;n.loaded=!0;n.version='2.0';n.queue=[];t=b.createElement(e);t.async=!0;\nt.src=v;s=b.getElementsByTagName(e)[0];s.parentNode.insertBefore(t,s)}(window,\ndocument,'script','https:\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/fbevents.js');\n<\/script><script async defer src=\"https:\/\/platform.instagram.com\/en_US\/embeds.js\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For decades, Kanye West was one of the most magnetic celebrities on earth. 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